he owners of two local cemeteries can't help but grimace as they watch law enforcement officers continue to comb the grounds of Burr Oak Cemetery in Alsip, Ill., where it is estimated that more than 300 bodies were dug up and thrown in a pile so four workers allegedly could resell their plots.
Although they insist the travesty at a predominantly black cemetery in Illinois is an isolated incident, the owners concede it puts a mark on the entire industry nonetheless.
"This is three to four individuals acting on their own to basically not only hurt the families involved, but to destroy the cemetery as well. We're all disturbed by this," said Frank Milles, vice president for administration of StoneMor Partners LP in Levittown, Pa., which oversees more than 280 properties in 29 states, including Calvary Cemetery in Portage.
"This cannot happen at a properly run cemetery without everyone on the property being involved," said David Shipper, president of Indiana Memorial Group, which owns 42 cemeteries including Graceland in Valparaiso.
"In the end we'll find out the whole story. I don't think it's been told yet," Shipper said.
Shipper and Milles were the only two of several cemetery owners in Northwest Indiana who would comment on the Illinois scandal.
Meanwhile, Indiana already has in place rules governing the funeral and cemetery industry, and agencies to oversee those rules, unlike Illinois, where lawmakers are scrambling in the aftermath of the Burr Oak incident to come up with more stringent policies.
Cemeteries are licensed in Indiana, and rules and regulations governing them are provided on the Indiana State Board of Funerals and Cemetery Services Web site, said Molly Butter, information officer for the Indiana Attorney General's Office. Complaints are filed with the Attorney General's Office, and are heard by the state licensing board, she said.
While Butters said there is one complaint before the Attorney General's Office, it has to do with misuse of funds, not disruption of graves.
Indiana rules call for disciplinary action in the event of any fraud, and a 90-day suspension with adjudication if an employee is found to present a danger to the public's health, safety or property. They also state that cemetery plots can be sold by the cemetery owner after 50 years if they are not used and no improvement to the site, such as a monument, has been made. But the plot's owner must be notified.
Illinois Comptroller Dan Hynes wants both Burr Oak and another cemetery owned by Arizona-based Perpetua placed in a receivership. He is calling for Perpetua's $5.9 million in trust funds for cemetery maintenance and prepurchased funerals to be frozen. A hearing is scheduled Friday.
Both Milles and Shipper said while their corporate offices are not located on the cemetery's sites, several management layers would prevent this type of criminal activity from occurring
"We have a local manager on site and a regional team that does individual work at each cemetery. We review records and transactions. I believe we have good control," Milles said.
Shipper said at all his properties there are computerized records, maps of cemetery sections, paper files and burial cards, all of which provide physical evidence of a burial having taken place in a given plot. All of that information is also on computer, he said.
The Chicago Sun-Times contributed to this story.
Friday, July 17, 2009
Shouldn't the state have as much control over cemeteries as they do over barbers?
The one thing we found out almost from the beginning is if you get your hair cut, a barber is more highly regulated than the people who operate cemeteries. There is virtually no regulation whatsoever.
-- Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart
Families with loved ones buried at Mount Hope Cemetery in Belleville and Valley View Cemetery in Edwardsville have many questions now that the cemeteries -- already missing $300,000 from prepaid burial accounts and struggling to keep the grass cut -- apparently have closed.
The situation isn't as bad as Burr Oak Cemetery in Cook County, where employees allegedly dug up hundreds of bodies so they could resell burial sites. But it's bad enough.
Imagine finding out that slip of paper that promised perpetual care is meaningless. And what should Belleville and Edwardsville leaders do? Take on the expense of maintaining a cemetery? Or let the weeds grow and put up with complaints about an eyesore?
Comptroller Dan Hynes just notified the owners that they can't just quit. But how can the state force a business to keep going?
Along with these new questions, we're still waiting for an answer to an old one. Hynes discovered that money was missing in October, yet eight months later no criminal charges have been filed. What's the holdup?
Gov. Pat Quinn has appointed a commission to look at regulating cemeteries. Hynes and some lawmakers tried to get regulations enacted this week, without success.
It seems reasonable that the state should have at least as much control over cemetery owners as they do over barbers
-- Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart
Families with loved ones buried at Mount Hope Cemetery in Belleville and Valley View Cemetery in Edwardsville have many questions now that the cemeteries -- already missing $300,000 from prepaid burial accounts and struggling to keep the grass cut -- apparently have closed.
The situation isn't as bad as Burr Oak Cemetery in Cook County, where employees allegedly dug up hundreds of bodies so they could resell burial sites. But it's bad enough.
Imagine finding out that slip of paper that promised perpetual care is meaningless. And what should Belleville and Edwardsville leaders do? Take on the expense of maintaining a cemetery? Or let the weeds grow and put up with complaints about an eyesore?
Comptroller Dan Hynes just notified the owners that they can't just quit. But how can the state force a business to keep going?
Along with these new questions, we're still waiting for an answer to an old one. Hynes discovered that money was missing in October, yet eight months later no criminal charges have been filed. What's the holdup?
Gov. Pat Quinn has appointed a commission to look at regulating cemeteries. Hynes and some lawmakers tried to get regulations enacted this week, without success.
It seems reasonable that the state should have at least as much control over cemetery owners as they do over barbers
Two Illinois cemeteries shut down without explanation
KSDK -- The owner of two Metro East cemeteries packed up and took off last weekend, closing the business for good. But there are still a lot of unanswered questions about what will happen to the cemetery and prepaid customers.
Edwardsville police say they've had problems with the Valley View Cemetery off Route 157 for more than a decade. Police say there have been several irresponsible owners, but this is among the worst they've seen.
Police started getting complaints about the cemetery when the current owner Hillman Crowell took over Valley View and the Mt. Hope cemeteries in Belleville a few years ago. Callers told Edwardsville police the grass was too long and the cemetery was poorly maintained. Officers ticketed Crowell and they say it got better for a while. But when Crowell died this winter, his daughter took over. Police say the problems got worse.
Officers say she didn't have enough money to pay the bills, so on Saturday, she packed everything up, laid off her employees and left.
Now a lot of people, including customers and the City of Edwardsville are left wondering what's next.
"I've got papers to be cremated here too," said Nova Farrell, whose husband is buried at Valley View. "I don't know if they'll take care of that."
"This is a pretty big cemetery," said Lt. Scott Evers of the Edwardsville Police department. "It requires a lot of maintenance. That's one of the issues we're trying to resolve now. Working with the comptroller, the state's attorney and city officials to find a short term solution and a long term solution."
We contacted the owner's daughter, but a woman at her office referred all calls to the Edwardsville Police Department.
Ideally, the City of Edwardsville would like to see the state step in and take control of the cemeteries until they can find a responsible party to buy them, but with the state's current budget problems, that may not be possible.
Edwardsville police say they've had problems with the Valley View Cemetery off Route 157 for more than a decade. Police say there have been several irresponsible owners, but this is among the worst they've seen.
Police started getting complaints about the cemetery when the current owner Hillman Crowell took over Valley View and the Mt. Hope cemeteries in Belleville a few years ago. Callers told Edwardsville police the grass was too long and the cemetery was poorly maintained. Officers ticketed Crowell and they say it got better for a while. But when Crowell died this winter, his daughter took over. Police say the problems got worse.
Officers say she didn't have enough money to pay the bills, so on Saturday, she packed everything up, laid off her employees and left.
Now a lot of people, including customers and the City of Edwardsville are left wondering what's next.
"I've got papers to be cremated here too," said Nova Farrell, whose husband is buried at Valley View. "I don't know if they'll take care of that."
"This is a pretty big cemetery," said Lt. Scott Evers of the Edwardsville Police department. "It requires a lot of maintenance. That's one of the issues we're trying to resolve now. Working with the comptroller, the state's attorney and city officials to find a short term solution and a long term solution."
We contacted the owner's daughter, but a woman at her office referred all calls to the Edwardsville Police Department.
Ideally, the City of Edwardsville would like to see the state step in and take control of the cemeteries until they can find a responsible party to buy them, but with the state's current budget problems, that may not be possible.
Thursday, July 16, 2009
Vandalism is not Ghost Hunting.
As ghost hunting grows in popularity, the number of people setting out in the middle of the night to catch a glimpse of the paranormal grows daily, or perhaps we should say nightly. While this may be a commercial boon for some business owners, some owners of haunted sites are finding the interest in their property more of a curse than a blessing. Many are trespassing on private property, and in some cases breaking into and vandalizing these properties.
The Rock House in Georgia was plagued by such late night visits, and owners were forced to employ 24 hour security. When the Stanley Mill in Ohio was listed as a haunted location on a website, the owners claimed they had to spend thousands on security measures to keep the curious away. They eventually won a $125,000 lawsuit against the website owners and the site was forced to take all information on the mill down. In 2008, 6 Texas youths; Jorge Montoya, 17, Gerardo Santoyo, 18, Felipe Ochoa, 23, Carmen Salazar, 17, Rene Nunez, 21, and John Carrillo, 20 were arrested and charged with criminal trespassing when then broke into Magic Landing Amusement Park, where they were allegedly ghost hunting. Earlier that year, the park was the subject of arson and suffered nearly $500,000 worth of damage. It is unclear whether the two events are related.
n Salem, Massachusetts, a group of three ghost hunters broke into an abandoned hospital in October 2005. Police in the station across the street were alerted and they were arrested, charged with trespassing on private property and fined. The abandoned Danvers State Hospital, also in Massachusetts, has suffered from vandalism and trespassing all in the supposed name of ghost hunting. Prior to the sale of the property to developers, police arrested on average of 5 people a month for trespassing.
The list goes on and on. Strawberry Chapel, a 300 year old church is plagued by vandals. The historic building has suffered over $50,000 in damages and priceless hand blown glass windows have been shattered. All across the country, old cemeteries, buildings and homes are being subject to this kind of mistreatment. Thanks to the immature and disrespectful, places such as Bachelor’s Grove, a historic cemetery in Illinois are now off-limits. A once quaint cemetery hidden in Rubio Woods Forest Preserve had been nearly destroyed by vandals. Headstones have been smashed, moved and defaced, alcohol containers and other trash littered the site, and graves have been desecrated.
While many paranormal researchers work hard to bring credibility to the field, this type of criminal behavior continues to bring a bad name to ghost hunters. Some paranormal groups are now working to restore these historic sites; however the damage has been done in more ways than one. Not only are beautiful and historic locations defaced beyond repair, but many owners of these properties are now forced to take a zero tolerance approach when it comes to paranormal researchers.
As Jason Sullivan, founder of Midwest Haunts and creator of the popular Ghost Hunting 101 series, says in his video Respecting the Paranormal. “Ask permission, and if the owner wants nothing to do with you, then I’m sorry- you need to walk away.” Great advice, Jason! And here’s one more suggestion, while you are walking away, why not stop and pick up the empty beer can littering the area and throw it away?
The video series Ghost Hunting 101 can be found on MySpace http://www.myspace.com/ghosthunting101 and YouTube, and is a must see for anyone interested in becoming a ghost hunter.
The Rock House in Georgia was plagued by such late night visits, and owners were forced to employ 24 hour security. When the Stanley Mill in Ohio was listed as a haunted location on a website, the owners claimed they had to spend thousands on security measures to keep the curious away. They eventually won a $125,000 lawsuit against the website owners and the site was forced to take all information on the mill down. In 2008, 6 Texas youths; Jorge Montoya, 17, Gerardo Santoyo, 18, Felipe Ochoa, 23, Carmen Salazar, 17, Rene Nunez, 21, and John Carrillo, 20 were arrested and charged with criminal trespassing when then broke into Magic Landing Amusement Park, where they were allegedly ghost hunting. Earlier that year, the park was the subject of arson and suffered nearly $500,000 worth of damage. It is unclear whether the two events are related.
n Salem, Massachusetts, a group of three ghost hunters broke into an abandoned hospital in October 2005. Police in the station across the street were alerted and they were arrested, charged with trespassing on private property and fined. The abandoned Danvers State Hospital, also in Massachusetts, has suffered from vandalism and trespassing all in the supposed name of ghost hunting. Prior to the sale of the property to developers, police arrested on average of 5 people a month for trespassing.
The list goes on and on. Strawberry Chapel, a 300 year old church is plagued by vandals. The historic building has suffered over $50,000 in damages and priceless hand blown glass windows have been shattered. All across the country, old cemeteries, buildings and homes are being subject to this kind of mistreatment. Thanks to the immature and disrespectful, places such as Bachelor’s Grove, a historic cemetery in Illinois are now off-limits. A once quaint cemetery hidden in Rubio Woods Forest Preserve had been nearly destroyed by vandals. Headstones have been smashed, moved and defaced, alcohol containers and other trash littered the site, and graves have been desecrated.
While many paranormal researchers work hard to bring credibility to the field, this type of criminal behavior continues to bring a bad name to ghost hunters. Some paranormal groups are now working to restore these historic sites; however the damage has been done in more ways than one. Not only are beautiful and historic locations defaced beyond repair, but many owners of these properties are now forced to take a zero tolerance approach when it comes to paranormal researchers.
As Jason Sullivan, founder of Midwest Haunts and creator of the popular Ghost Hunting 101 series, says in his video Respecting the Paranormal. “Ask permission, and if the owner wants nothing to do with you, then I’m sorry- you need to walk away.” Great advice, Jason! And here’s one more suggestion, while you are walking away, why not stop and pick up the empty beer can littering the area and throw it away?
The video series Ghost Hunting 101 can be found on MySpace http://www.myspace.com/ghosthunting101 and YouTube, and is a must see for anyone interested in becoming a ghost hunter.
Friday, July 10, 2009
4 Ill. cemetery workers accused in grisly plot
A close friend of the groups pointed me in the direction of a horrific news story! This story makes me sick and makes my skin crawl! How can or why the hell would someone do such a thing!!!!!
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ALSIP, Ill. — Three gravediggers and a cemetery manager unearthed hundreds of corpses from a historic black cemetery south of Chicago, dumping some in a weeded area and double-stacking others in existing graves, in an elaborate scheme to resell the plots, authorities said Thursday. All four were charged with felonies.
Frantic relatives of the deceased descended on Burr Oak Cemetery — the final resting place of lynching victim Emmett Till and blues singers Willie Dixon and Dinah Washington — in hopes someone could tell them their loved ones' remains were not among the pile of bones that littered a remote area of the property in Alsip, 12 miles south of Chicago.
Some found apparently undisturbed plots, but others wandered, unable to locate loved ones.
"This is a mess. We can't find our people," said Ralph Gunn, 54, of Chicago, who filled out a report for authorities after a futile search for the headstones of his brother and nephew.
Others cried and clutched cemetery maps as they waited for a chance to look themselves. They listened as Sheriff Tom Dart said the displacement of bodies "was not done in a very delicate way," and that remains were dumped haphazardly, littered with shards of coffins. For graves stacked on top of each other, Dart said it appears they "pounded the other one down and put someone on top."
A visibly shaken Rev. Jesse Jackson voiced the mounting anger at those who would toss the bones of the dead like trash.
"In my judgment, there should be no bail for them, there should be really a special place in hell for these graveyard thieves who have done so much, hurt these families," he said.
By late afternoon, orange flags marking grave sites that might have been disturbed could be seen throughout the 150-acre cemetery, where as many as 1,000 burials are held a year. Officials took phone numbers and told family members they would call within 72 hours. Dart said FBI agents would help sort through evidence and identify bodies and that it could be months before investigators fully understand what took place.
"I feel betrayed and violated," said Gregory Mannie, 54, a Chicagoan with four relatives buried at Burr Oak. Mannie was particularly worried about his grandmother, whose grave is in a more secluded area he did not visit as often as the others. He grew suspicious when he saw it Thursday — it seemed too clean.
"It's almost like killing them all over again," Mannie said.
The suspects, all of whom are black, were identified as Carolyn Towns, 49, Keith Nicks, 45, and Terrence Nicks, 39 — all of Chicago — and Maurice Dailey, 61, of Robbins. They each have been charged with one count of dismembering a human body, a felony.
Bond was set at $250,000 for Towns, the cemetery's manager, and at $200,000 for the other three.
Authorities said Towns also pocketed donations she elicited for an Emmett Till memorial museum. She has not been charged in connection with those allegations. Court documents show she was fired from the cemetery in late May amid allegations of financial wrongdoing.
Cook County state's attorney's office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton said Towns is being represented by a private attorney, but Simonton did not know the attorney's name. The Cook County public defender's office said it had not yet assigned attorneys to the other three cases.
The investigation was prompted in May, when a groundskeeper discovered skeletal remains in the part of the cemetery that wasn't supposed to be used, and cemetery officials notified Alsip police. Around the same time, the cemetery's Arizona-based owner, Perpetua Inc., called Cook County authorities to report the alleged financial wrongdoing.
Towns allegedly took cash for new graves, then instructed the three gravediggers to empty existing plots and move the remains inside to an unused part of the cemetery covered with chest-high grass and dotted with trees.
Perpetua Inc., said in a statement Thursday that the company is cooperating with investigators.
"We will make every attempt to insure and maintain the dignity of those that have been entrusted to our care," the company said.
It's the second time in recent years that Burr Oak has been at the center of an investigation. In 2005, the body of the 14-year-old Till, whose slaying in 1955 in Mississippi for allegedly whistling at a white woman helped galvanize the civil rights movement, was exhumed as part of a reopened investigation of his death.
Dart said Till's grave was not disturbed in the alleged plot-selling scheme, but he did not have information about the graves of Washington and others.
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ALSIP, Ill. — Three gravediggers and a cemetery manager unearthed hundreds of corpses from a historic black cemetery south of Chicago, dumping some in a weeded area and double-stacking others in existing graves, in an elaborate scheme to resell the plots, authorities said Thursday. All four were charged with felonies.
Frantic relatives of the deceased descended on Burr Oak Cemetery — the final resting place of lynching victim Emmett Till and blues singers Willie Dixon and Dinah Washington — in hopes someone could tell them their loved ones' remains were not among the pile of bones that littered a remote area of the property in Alsip, 12 miles south of Chicago.
Some found apparently undisturbed plots, but others wandered, unable to locate loved ones.
"This is a mess. We can't find our people," said Ralph Gunn, 54, of Chicago, who filled out a report for authorities after a futile search for the headstones of his brother and nephew.
Others cried and clutched cemetery maps as they waited for a chance to look themselves. They listened as Sheriff Tom Dart said the displacement of bodies "was not done in a very delicate way," and that remains were dumped haphazardly, littered with shards of coffins. For graves stacked on top of each other, Dart said it appears they "pounded the other one down and put someone on top."
A visibly shaken Rev. Jesse Jackson voiced the mounting anger at those who would toss the bones of the dead like trash.
"In my judgment, there should be no bail for them, there should be really a special place in hell for these graveyard thieves who have done so much, hurt these families," he said.
By late afternoon, orange flags marking grave sites that might have been disturbed could be seen throughout the 150-acre cemetery, where as many as 1,000 burials are held a year. Officials took phone numbers and told family members they would call within 72 hours. Dart said FBI agents would help sort through evidence and identify bodies and that it could be months before investigators fully understand what took place.
"I feel betrayed and violated," said Gregory Mannie, 54, a Chicagoan with four relatives buried at Burr Oak. Mannie was particularly worried about his grandmother, whose grave is in a more secluded area he did not visit as often as the others. He grew suspicious when he saw it Thursday — it seemed too clean.
"It's almost like killing them all over again," Mannie said.
The suspects, all of whom are black, were identified as Carolyn Towns, 49, Keith Nicks, 45, and Terrence Nicks, 39 — all of Chicago — and Maurice Dailey, 61, of Robbins. They each have been charged with one count of dismembering a human body, a felony.
Bond was set at $250,000 for Towns, the cemetery's manager, and at $200,000 for the other three.
Authorities said Towns also pocketed donations she elicited for an Emmett Till memorial museum. She has not been charged in connection with those allegations. Court documents show she was fired from the cemetery in late May amid allegations of financial wrongdoing.
Cook County state's attorney's office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton said Towns is being represented by a private attorney, but Simonton did not know the attorney's name. The Cook County public defender's office said it had not yet assigned attorneys to the other three cases.
The investigation was prompted in May, when a groundskeeper discovered skeletal remains in the part of the cemetery that wasn't supposed to be used, and cemetery officials notified Alsip police. Around the same time, the cemetery's Arizona-based owner, Perpetua Inc., called Cook County authorities to report the alleged financial wrongdoing.
Towns allegedly took cash for new graves, then instructed the three gravediggers to empty existing plots and move the remains inside to an unused part of the cemetery covered with chest-high grass and dotted with trees.
Perpetua Inc., said in a statement Thursday that the company is cooperating with investigators.
"We will make every attempt to insure and maintain the dignity of those that have been entrusted to our care," the company said.
It's the second time in recent years that Burr Oak has been at the center of an investigation. In 2005, the body of the 14-year-old Till, whose slaying in 1955 in Mississippi for allegedly whistling at a white woman helped galvanize the civil rights movement, was exhumed as part of a reopened investigation of his death.
Dart said Till's grave was not disturbed in the alleged plot-selling scheme, but he did not have information about the graves of Washington and others.
Thursday, July 9, 2009
Tuesday 7/7/09 Investigations
Well, as many of you know Tuesday night (7/7/09) was a full moon and lunar eclipse. So our team decided to get together an head out to investigate several places inside an around Morgan Monroe State Forestry. Our first stop was a unknown location of a cemetery deep in the forest called Gose Creek Cemetery. It is said on the stone it was established in the 1800's. This cemetery seemed to be somewhat well kept, burials were as recent as 2003, hidden down an old logging road.
Our second stop was at an unkown named cemetery, with a total of 4 headstones showing, completey unkept, and forgotten about. Only way we knew it was a cemetery was walking up throw tall grass and weeds was a tall monument headstone.
As the night went on, we tried really hard to locate several others that we were unable to locate. They were thought to of been moved to a different location. We then perceded to go to Stepp Cemetery were we started our evenings investigations.
Stepp Cemetery seemed quiet calm this night, unlike other nights and even days we have ventured there. One disturbing find was a freshly dug grave by a headstone with the name Walls on it. Thinking this was a new grave that was set, our Case Manager Tony spoke with the Rangers and there have not been any new graves since the Professor of IU was layed to rest in 2002. So our group is up in arms and trying to find the truth behind this disturbing find. ((Stay tuned for updates on this matter)) We did however come across a few photos that were taken that again, came up red. These red photos had the simular 2 red cirlces over lapping each other with a red glow around them.
As we ended our night, we ventured to Pleasant View Cemetery located just outside of the Forestry to the south. This again was a very calm night, excpet a few other photo's turned out being red.
Log into our website to see findings of that evening. ((Coming soon!!))
http://www.southindyparanormalinvestigators.org
~~~~~~UPDATE~~~~~~
7/10/09
After doing more research on this new grave that was put in, it was Margaret Walls. She passed away May 12, 2009 at the age of 89. Our group is in the process of contacting the funeral home who was in charge of placing her at Stepp Cemetery. They did a piss poor job!
Our second stop was at an unkown named cemetery, with a total of 4 headstones showing, completey unkept, and forgotten about. Only way we knew it was a cemetery was walking up throw tall grass and weeds was a tall monument headstone.
As the night went on, we tried really hard to locate several others that we were unable to locate. They were thought to of been moved to a different location. We then perceded to go to Stepp Cemetery were we started our evenings investigations.
Stepp Cemetery seemed quiet calm this night, unlike other nights and even days we have ventured there. One disturbing find was a freshly dug grave by a headstone with the name Walls on it. Thinking this was a new grave that was set, our Case Manager Tony spoke with the Rangers and there have not been any new graves since the Professor of IU was layed to rest in 2002. So our group is up in arms and trying to find the truth behind this disturbing find. ((Stay tuned for updates on this matter)) We did however come across a few photos that were taken that again, came up red. These red photos had the simular 2 red cirlces over lapping each other with a red glow around them.
As we ended our night, we ventured to Pleasant View Cemetery located just outside of the Forestry to the south. This again was a very calm night, excpet a few other photo's turned out being red.
Log into our website to see findings of that evening. ((Coming soon!!))
http://www.southindyparanormalinvestigators.org
~~~~~~UPDATE~~~~~~
7/10/09
After doing more research on this new grave that was put in, it was Margaret Walls. She passed away May 12, 2009 at the age of 89. Our group is in the process of contacting the funeral home who was in charge of placing her at Stepp Cemetery. They did a piss poor job!
Monday, June 22, 2009
Tonights show 6/22/09 on Blog Talk Radio: Spring Mill Pioneer Village
Hi friends and followers of South Indy Paranormal Investigators! I want to first off give a shout out to all our "father" friends! Hope all had a great Father's Day weekend!Tonight at 10:30pm EST, South Indy Paranormal will be discussing a new project in the making! Spring Mill State Park. As some of you may know, our Founder and Co/Founder took a vacation to this park this year, not only for vacation, but also for studying their past and possible activity. We are not saying this place is haunted, but we all had some personal expierences. Two nights in this week we also had our Case Manager Tony join us on this adventure, the second night we didnt do much, as a storm an thick fog rolled in at the beginning, but the one night he did show was very adventurous and exciting.
Before I do go any farther, I would like to note.. This place is open to public during business hours, but our group got special permission (as if you do go, please get... this place has so much history, I would hate to see idiots go in and trash the place!) ... That is one way to piss our group off, if we publish a place, an inturn find out it was vandalized an trashed... our group will no longer post interesting places....
Anyways, as I was saying before, Tony our case manager and Terri our co/founder along with our Founder Dennis have done extensive research on this place more so after last weeks show. Last weeks show was just about the experiences and what they knew just from being their, while fresh in their minds. So tonight we will be discussing the history and the past of the village along with the Hamer Cemetery. If you miss our show tonight you can catch it on archives an sometime this week the report of history will be posted!
Hope to see you all there! Chat opens at 10:15pm EST
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